Debunking Scrpene Scandal Part II: Perimekar, a bonafide operation

Malaysian screw on the Scorpene submarine
Our plan was to debunk the alleged Scorpene Scandal step by step, issue by issue and lie by lie. That way,  each aspect of the alleged scandal is addressed and fully understood.

However, the rapid succession of response by their master spinner or easier described as liar, Tian Chua, to dispell Zahid's denial in Parliament, it requires us to ponder on the manner they raised continuos doubt and suspicion. Since they are accusing party and responding every answer with accusing questions, the burden of proof should be placed upon them.  

For almost a year prior to the leak of the documents last week, SUARAM and PKR politicians have been demanding answers on series of allegations and speculation related to the police investigation. Their motive is  raise doubts and suspicions amongt the public.

They raised questions in Parliament, demand MACC to investigate, poke on certain personalities to answer them, and one wonder whether demand for anyone to resign have been asked or not. All the poking cannot be entertained or Government will end up playing to their tune. 


The Government side have given answers after answers and clarification ! after cl arification but they refuse to accept the answer. They want to continue to question and make-up stories as though the answer and clarification is insufficient. Since they having the doubt and making allegations, they should be the side to prove without any reasonable doubt? Why the "without any reasonable doubt" condition?

Easy ... as raised in Part 1 here, their motive is to form of link between the death of Altantuya with the submarine deal. PKR, SUARAM and opposition propaganda wants voters to believe that there was a cover-up to the murder because Altantuya was involved in the deal, denied her fair share and killed. 


Then, they should "show the smoking gun!" 

Consulting fee


Perimekar Project Manager for the Scorpene project in Cherbourg,
first Malaysian certified submariner & fellow ANSARA,
Allahyarham Mustafa Dapat 
The court and their French lawyers are not interested wi! th the m urder. Their motivation is to show that a  corrupt act was committed on French soil involving French subjects. They want to know if there is something  sneeky in the payment to Perimeker for  €114 million (RM534 million). 


The official answer have been given many times. The first was Defense Ministry's Public Relation officials reply issued at around the Ijok by-election in 2007. It was made in response to corruption allegations made by opposition against Najib as Defense Minister with relation to the purchase of Scorpene submarine purchase. 


The extract related to Perimeker, below: 
Kementerian Pertahanan hari ini ingin memberi penjelasan berhubung kenyataan-kenyataan yang dibuat oleh pihak-pihak tertentu tentang perolehan pesawat Sukhoi SU30MKM dan kapal selam Scorpene oleh Angkatan Tentera Malaysia.
Ke menterian Pertahanan mendapati bahawa kenyataan-kenyataan yang dibuat terutama oleh parti-parti politik tertentu mengenai perolehan kelengkapan tersebut sejak akhir-akhir ini telah menimbulkan banyak kekeliruan dan salah faham di dalam masyarakat. 
Selain itu, ia juga menimbulkan persepsi negatif dan prasangka bahawa perolehan kelengkapan untuk keperluan Angkatan Tentera Malaysia telah dilaksanakan tanpa mengikut prosedur yang ditetapkan, tidak telus dan membazir. 
Di sini, pihak Kementerian ingin memaklumkan bahawa semua rundingan perolehan adalah dijalankan mengikut Tatacara Perlaksanaan Kontrak-Kontrak Perolehan Peralatan Pertahanan Negara oleh  pegawai-pegawai kerajaan. Ia melibatkan pelbagai peringkat kelulusan termasuk Jawatankuasa Teknikal dan Jawatankuasa Rundingan Harga setelah penilaian-penilaian yang teliti dibuat demi memastikan perolehan tersebut menepati keperluan Angkatan Tentera Malaysia. 
Selain itu, rujukan juga dibuat kepada pihak Jabatan Peguam Negara bagi mendapatkan kelulusan ke atas klausa-klausa kontrak tersebut. Semua terma-terma dan kelulusan untuk rundingan terus dikemukakan kepada Kementerian Kewangan dan kontrak hanya akan ditandatangani selepas kelulusan Kementerian Kewangan diperolehi. 
Berhubung dengan perolehan kapal sela! m Scorpe ne, Kementerian Pertahanan ingin menegaskan bahawa dakwaan kononnya kerajaan telah membayar komisen sebanyak RM540 juta kepada Encik Abd Razak Baginda merupakan satu tuduhan yang tidak berasas sama sekali.
Kementerian juga ingin menegaskan bahawa dalam soal perolehan kapal selam Scorpene, TIDAK ADA sebarang komisen yang dibayar kepada syarikat Perimekar Sdn. Bhd. seperti yang didakwa. Ini kerana perolehan kapal selam telah dibuat secara rundingan terus – selaras dengan tatacara perolehan kerajaan – dengan syarikat pembuat iaitu ARMARIS (Perancis) dan NAVANTIA (Sepanyol) yang telah mendapat persetujuan kerajaan masing-masing. 
Sebaliknya, syarikat Perimekar Sdn. Bhd. yang didakwa menerima komisen, sebenarnya diberikan kontrak  menyediakan perkhidmatan sokongan dan koordinasi untuk tempoh selama enam tahun. Nilai kontrak tersebut adalah sebanyak EURO 114.96 juta, yang dibayar secara berperingkat-peringkat mengikut kemajuan pelaksanaan projek. 
Perimekar Sdn Bhd dimiliki bersama oleh Lembaga Tabung Angkatan Tentera (LTAT), Boustead Holdings Berha! d dan K. S.Ombak Laut Sdn. Bhd. 
Skop kerja perkhidmatan sokongan adalah seperti berikut:
  1. Menyediakan kemudahan kediaman beserta kelengkapan untuk tim projek bagi 27 keluarga di Perancis dan Sepanyol untuk tempoh enam tahun. 
  2. Menyediakan pejabat urusan dan kediaman beserta kelengkapan bagi krew kapal selam TLDM seramai 156 orang untuk tempoh empat tahun di Perancis dan Sepanyol. 
  3. Menyediakan insurans kesihatan bagi anggota serta keluarga tim projek dan krew kapal selam di Perancis dan Sepanyol
  4. Membayar elaun harian dan elaun krew kapal selam sebanyak EURO 50 sehari seorang untuk tiga tahun pertama dan EURO 60 sehari seorang untuk tiga tahun kedua.
  5. Membiayai kos penerbangan pergi dan balik bagi setiap krew kapal selam untuk balik bercuti ke Malaysia pada setiap 4 bulan (tiga kali setahun).
  6. Lain-lain keperluan tim projek dan krew kapal selam di Perancis dan Sepanyol 
Perkhidmatan koordinasi pula melibatkan: 
  1. Bertanggungjawab memastikan penyertaan syarikat Malaysia dalam pembinaan dan membantu syarikat-syarikat Malaysia yang berpotensi untuk menyertai program off-set.
  2. Membantu kontraktor utama dalam memberi maklumat tentang prosedur kerajaan berhubung perlaksanaan kontrak.
  3. Menyelaras latihan krew kapal selam antara kontraktor dengan kerajaan.
  4. Menyediakan laporan koordinasi setiap enam bulan.
Jumlah kontrak EURO 114.96 juta bukanlah merupakan keuntungan bersih milik syarikat Perimekar Sdn Bhd., sebaliknya jumlah ini adalah meliputi segala pembayaran kos langsung bagi skop perkhidmatan sokongan dan tanggungan ke atas kos tidak langsung bagi perkhidmatan koordinasi seperti yang ditetapkan dalam kontrak tersebut. 
Kementerian Pertahanan membuat keputusan untuk melantik sebuah syarikat tempatan bagi menyediakan perkhidmatan sokongan dan koordinasi kerana kaedah tersebut dianggap lebih sesuai dan berkesan. Ia juga bagi tujuan melicinkan k! erja-ker ja Tim Projek membuat pemantauan ke atas pembinaan dan latihan krew kapal selam di Perancis dan Sepanyol. 
Selain itu, segala perbelanjaan untuk projek kapal selam ini dapat dikawal dan dijadualkan manakala perbelanjaan di luar jangka (cost over-run) dapat dielakkan memandangkan pelaksanaan projek perolehan kapal selam memakan tempoh masa yang panjang iaitu selama enam tahun serta melibatkan bilangan anggota yang ramai.
Berdasarkan kepada keperluan tersebut, maka syarikat Perimekar Sdn. Bhd. telah dilantik untuk menyediakan perkhidmatan yang diperlukan mengikut skop kerja yang ditetapkan.
Profitability  

Mustaffa Dapat (second on the left) and Kept. Abdul Rahman Ayob (centre)
during a tour of duty with the Austraian Submarine squadron.
There were several reasons why Perimekar was required to! play th ose role.

One was that there was a former Navy submariner or a Dolphin holder within Perimeker who was also an engineer by training. Two, if the Government was to undertake that role in accordance with Government procedures, it could cost more and require more staff.

Thirdly, there is a possibility is it to solve a mismatch between officer and crew entitlement and Government overseas entitlement due to the cost of living in France.

For €114 million for 6 years, it works out to an average of €19 million a year. It was actually insufficient for Perimeker to carryout their role. For the basic recurring cost, it already amounted to €90 million. Perimeker had to live with €24 million or  an average €6 million a year to live on for their own needs. 


To fund the project, Razak invited Boustead to participate and it is was also strategic for boustead to raise money through Banks, specifically Affin Bank, a bank familiar with! defense industry. Otherwise Perimeker would not have survive. Cost was escalating anda small staff force of about 5 people and small office in town, smaller in size than a Malaysian Seven-11 store. 


Due to cashflow problem at one time, Perimeker could not quite fulfill the client's entitlement to the letter. So there was give and take and camarederie between the Navy and former navy in Perimeker.  


In Free Malaysia Today dated June 1 , 2011 hereCéline Boileau wrote below:
Besides, it appears that Perimekar has been declining since last year. Suspected of being created for the sole purpose of distributing a RM500 million commission between Malaysian and foreign beneficiaries after the ! sale of the submarines, the company, registered in 1999, defines its activity as "marketing, maintenance and other activities related to submarines and surface vessels…". 
The financial statements report that Perimekar has a single customer: the Malaysian government. 
They also show that the company has a wide range of financial performance from year to year. For example, while the company has reported a net loss of RM8.2 million in 2003, it declared a net profit of RM24.7 million the following year. 
In 2008, Perimekar also became a group with two small subsidiaries (Prima Laksana and Gagah Nirwana). 
Now, has the golden age of Perimekar gone? 
Between 2009 and 2010, while the submarines were being delivered, Perimekar's activity has (almost) tumbled down: the company has seen its net income decrease from a profit of RM19 million to a loss amounting to RM3.3 million. 
The turnover has plunged from about RM85 million to RM23 million – an amount still comfortable enough for its shareholders. 
They have been granted dividends of RM56.2 million in 2009 (66% of the turnover) and RM18.7 million in 2010 (81% of the turnover). 
Between 2003 and 2010, the company received more than RM200 million from its contract with the government. 
However, the financial report of 2010 stated: "The company's project with the governement of Malaysia was completed on Dec 25, 2009, after which a downsizing exercise was done in a fair manner and the company was focusing on prospecting for other viable business opportunities."  
Besides, it appears that Perimekar has been declining since last year. Suspected of being created for the sole purpose of distributing a RM500 million commission between Malaysian and foreign benef! iciaries after the sale of the submarines, the company, registered in 1999, defines its activity as "marketing, maintenance and other activities related to submarines and surface vessels…". 
The financial statements report that Perimekar has a single customer: the Malaysian government. 
They also show that the company has a wide range of financial performance from year to year. For example, while the company has reported a net loss of RM8.2 million in 2003, it declared a net profit of RM24.7 million the following year. 
In 2008, Perimekar also became a group with two small subsidiaries (Prima Laksana and Gagah Nirwana). 
Now, has the golden age of Perimekar gone? Between 2009 and 2010, while the submarines were being delivered, Perimekar's activity has (almost) tumbled down: the company has seen its net income decrease from a profit of RM19 million to a loss amounting to RM3.3 million.The turnover has plunged from about RM85 million to RM23 million – an amount still comfortable enough for its shareholders. 
They have been granted dividends of RM56.2 million in 2009 (66% of the turnover) and RM18.7 million in 2010 (81% of the turnover). 
Between 2003 and 2010, the company received more than RM200 million from its contract with the government. 
However, the financial report of 2010 stated: "The company's project with the governement of Malaysia was completed on Dec 25, 2009, after which a downsizing exercise was done in a fair manner and the company was focusing on prospecting for other viable business opportunities."
The Perimekar's dividend was shared between shareholders; Boustead Holdings (20%), LTAT (20%) and KS Ombak Laut (60%), which many claimed is wholly owned by Razak Baginda via his wife. Mazlinda Makhzan. 


However, we believe there is another shareholder of KS ! Ombak La ut owner in Perimekar from amongst it's five Directors; Tan Sri Lodin Wok Kamaruddin (Chairman), Mazlinda Makhzan, Rozana Abdullah Meili, Abdul Rani Mohd Hussin Abdullah and Mohd Hussin Tamby.


Propaganda 




Despite the role they played and the existence of a bonafide operations in Cherboug, France and Brest, Spain, Dr Kua Kia Soong, the Director of Suaram and author of the book  "Questioning arms spending in Malaysia" that launched SUARAM's attack on the Scorpene deal, wrote that "the rise and fall of Perimekar sounds like a convenient story to hide from the investigation into the Scorpene deal."


U! p-to-tod ay, they still believe that there is kickback paid and are guessing the €35 million is part of the money from Perimekar to Razak as kickback via various alleged vehicle to Terasasi. Unless there is money trail to show such, it is all speculative. 




The latest spin was made from remark by DCNS' financial controller, Gerard-Philippe Menayas in his interview with the French police. Menayas only made a general statement that associate companies and offshore account were used to pay kickbacks. He did not mention Malaysia specifically but inclusive of other countries. 


Menayas claimed that he instructed a Malta based company, Giffen to pay for Razak and his "translator" Altantuya for travelling expenses sometimes in 2004-2006. Now Tian Chua also laughed off why the need for a translator since English was used for negotiation. In fact, much of the negotiation was done in Malaysia.


As proven in Part 1 here, Altantuya is neither a translator or has the capacity to be involved in arms. The agreement was made in 2002 so why is there a need to negotiate anything else? 




Speculate as much as they wish on Razak's tryst with Altantuya abroad but by the time Altantuya came into the picture, there is no need for translator and negotiation. That is the end of story. It should be the end of story for Menayas, whose testimony seems guesswork and should be thrown put. 


He has got no money trail to support any probable claim on the Malaysian transaction or basis for Razak and Altantuya's travelling expenses. 


In FMT hereTian Chua response was reported. He raised questions as to why French submarine was chosen ov! er South Korea. Burden of prove is on their side. Prove it!


The answer is technical and strategic, thus is best not answered. The Government does not need to answer. Whether it is Tian Chua or Dr Kua Kua Soong or Tony Pua, hate to be miscontrued as rasist, Chinese knows shit on military. Hardly few have the guts to join the army or the volunteer. 


Tian Chua raised also of claims that UMNO could be a beneficiary. Show me the money! Support that allegation with a money trail or its thrown down the Eiffel Tower!


He gets worse in his own Malaysia Chronicle here with various unsubstantiated allegation thrown but his basis premise remains proven wrong. 




This is the propaganda methodology follows the great Goebbel propaganda to keep repeating and make a ! lie big enough to be believable. 


Despite answers from the Government, Anwar continues to make the same allegation he made in the 2007 Ijok by-election till today that the RM500 million paid to Perimeker was all kickback, the full RM500 miliion plus. Not part of it or percentage of it, but the full payment made to Perimeker. And no money trial established.  


He continues to claim Perimeker is owned by Razak Baginda, on behalf of Najib because Razak is his crony and adviser. No prove of the actual transaction and instruction.


Anwar said he had the documents in his hand and only waiting for time to release it. But only last week was there any documents leaked and those documents were only gathered upon French lawyers of SUARAM's initiative since 2009 to get the courts to direct police to investigate and gather information. 


The sodomist lied!


Consistent


Malaysian first submarine commander, then First Lt. Cdr. Zulhelmi Isnin,
Cdr. Abdullah Sani Ismail, Mustaffa Dapat and Kept. Abdul Rahman Ayob
at TLDM Lumut, 1997.


Apart from the the oath he made at the Permatang Pauh by-election, Dato Najib made a comment in 2008. The Sun report below: 
Najib: No commission paid on Scorpene, Sukhoi deals Tim Leonard 
KUALA LUMPUR (May 6, 2008): No commission was paid by the Government to any parties for the purchase of the RM4.5 billion Scorpene submarines and the RM3.2 billion Sukhoi jets, Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Abdul Razak said today.
Najib, who is also Defence Minister, said allegations of corruption and cronyism were baseless as all these transactions were made in keeping with proper procurement procedures. 
He was responding to calls by opposition leader Datin Seri Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail in the Dewan Rakyat yesterday for the Prime Minister to set up an independent commission to probe these purchases as she claimed that large amounts of commission were paid. 
Speaking to reporters after presenting excellent service awards to Defence Ministry personnel in conjunction with Workers Day in the Mindef headquarters here, Najib advised those who make such allegations to check their facts first. 
His ministry also issued a statement that allegations that the ministry had paid RM540 million to Abdul Razak Baginda (an accused in the Altantuya Shaariibuu murder trial) as commission to secure the Scorpene deal were without basis.
It said that a local company, Perimekar Sdn Bhd, was awarde! d a cont ract worth 114.96 million Euros to provide support and coordination services for a period of six years. This was the amount that was miscontrued as "commissions". 
The company's job scope includes preparing accommodation facilities for 27 families and 156 submarine crew in France and Spain, preparing offices and health insurance policies for staff and crew, paying daily allowances of 50 to 60 Euros per person and buying return flight tickets for the crew three times a year. 
Perimekar is a joint venture company between Lembaga Tabung Angkatan Tentera, Boustead Holdings Bhd and KS Ombak Laut Sdn Bhd.
In the latest Government official reply, Defense Minister, Dato Ahmad Zahid Hamidi answered in Parliament on June 26th is equally consistent, as below

Tuan Yang Dipertua,  
Sekali lagi saya ingin maklumkan Dewan Yang Mulia ini bahawa kontrak Perolehan dua buah kapal selam BARU Scorpene telah ditandatangani pada 5 Jun 2002 oleh Kerajaan Malaysia dengan Syarikat DCNS (Perancis) dan NAVANITA (Sepanyol) selaku pembekal kapal selam dan Perimekar Sdn Bhd sebagai Project Services Provider. Nilai kontrak ini ialah EURO 1.084 bilion. Skop kontrak ini terbahagi kepada dua bahagian iaitu:  
a) Bahagian Pertama: Antara Kerajaan Malaysia dengan Syarikat DCNS ( Perancis ) dan NAVANITA ( Sepanyol ) merangkumi perolehan dua bu! ah kapal selam jenis Scorpene, pakej Integrated Logistic Support (ILS) dan latihan untuk warga kapal selam Scorpene. Nilai bahagian ini ialah EURO969.15 Juta.  
b) Bahagian Kedua: Antara Kerajaan Malaysia dengan Perimekar Sdn Bhd merangkumi perkhidmatan koordinasi dan sokongan kepada Pasukan Projek dan pelatih pelatih kapal selam di Perancis dan Sepanyol. Nilai bahagian ini ialah EURO114.96 Juta.  
Tuan yang di-Pertua,  
Sekali lagi dinyatakan di Dewan Yang Mulia ini, Kementerian TIDAK PERNAH membayar sebarang bayaran komisen sama ada secara langsung atau tidak langsung kepada mana mana syarikat dalam perolehan Kapal Selam Scorpene.  
Perolehan kapal selam tersebut telah dibuat secara runding terus selaras dengan tatacara perolehan Kerajaan dengan Syarikat Pembuat iaitu Perancis dan Sepanyol yang telah mendapat persetujuan Kerajaan masing masing.  
Kenyataan Ahli Parlimen Lembah Pantai bahawa dua buah kapal selam Scorpene dibeli dari Syarikat Thales International adalah TIDAK BENAR. Kementerian Pertahanan TIDAK mempunyai sebarang maklumat mengenai DAKWAAN penjualan dokumen yang dikatakan RAHSIA oleh Syarikat Terasasi ( Hong Kong ) kepada Syarikat Thint Asia (Thales International ) yang didakwa bernilai EURO36 Juta.  
Kementerian juga TIDAK mempunyai maklumat DAKWAAN bayaran secara berkala daripada hint Asia kepada Syarikat Terasasi ( Hong Kong ) Tuan! Yang di -Pertua, Ahli Parlimen Lembah Pantai telah menyarankan supaya Kerajaan dan Kementerian Pertahanan perlu mengambil beberapa langkah antaranya;  
1) menjelaskan apakah benar maklumat dikesan keluar daripada Malaysia; Sepanjang pengetahuan Kementerian, sehingga kini TIADA maklumat yang dikesan keluar dari Malaysia. 
2) samada Kerajaan Malaysia akan memohon untuk menjadi wakil pemerhati di Mahkamah 'Tribunal de Grande Istance' Perancis untuk mendapat akses kertas pembuktian yang dirujuk oleh SUARAM; 
Kerajaan Malaysia difahamkan TIADA PERBICARAAN berlangsung di Perancis berhubung isu kapal selam Scorpene. Justeru, TIDAK TIMBUL soal Kerajaan akan memohon menjadi pemerhati. 
3) menubuhkan Suruhanjaya Bebas Diraja untuk menyiasat proses pembelian Scorpene jika terdapat unsur rasuah dan penjualan rahsia sulit negara; 
Kerajaan berpendapat TIDAK PERLU menubuhkan Suruhanjaya Bebas untuk menyiasat pembelian kapal selam memandangkan pembelian kelengkapan Angkatan Tentera Malaysia (ATM) ini dibuat mengikut Tatacara Pelaksanaan Kontrak Kontrak Perolehan Peralatan Pertahanan Negara. Ia melibatkan pelbagai peringkat kelulusan termasuk Jawatankuasa Teknikal dan Jawatankuasa Rundingan Harga setelah penilaian yang teliti dibuat demi memastikan perolehan tersebut menepati keperluan ATM. 
Selain itu rujukan juga dibuat kepada Jabatan Peguam Negara bagi mendapatkan kelulusan keatas klausa klausa kontrak tersebut. Semua terma dan kelulusan untuk rundingan terus dikemukakan kepada Kementerian kewangan untuk kelulusan. 
4) Kerajaan Malaysia juga perlu menyokong usul refor! masi Par limen agar sistem Jawatankuasa Tetap termasuk untuk Pertahanan diwujudkan demi menjamin segala urusan penting Kerajaan bebas dari rasuah dan pengkhianatan; 
Kerajaan berpendapat TIDAK PERLU untuk menubuhkan Jawatankuasa Tetap Parlimen untuk Pertahanan. Ini adalah kerana sebarang rancangan pembelian kelengkapan tentera adalah dinyatakan dalam anggaran belanjawan pembangunan yang mana dibahas dan diluluskan oleh Parlimen. Proses perolehan aset juga adalah tertakluk kepada peraturan peraturan yang ditetapkan oleh Kerajaan seperti Arahan Perbendaharaan dan Tatacara Prosedur Kewangan. 
Kerajaan juga berpandangan proses perolehan yang melibatkan kelengkapan pertahanan yang strategik tidak wajar dibincangkan secara terbuka. Manakala itu, setiap perbelanjaan adalah tertakluk kepada pemeriksaan atau teguran Jabatan Audit Negara. 
Sekian terima kasih
YB Dato' Seri Ahmad Zahid Hamidi
Menteri Pertahanan Malaysia
The Government is consistent but the Opposition keep changing their story and asking questions that is answered. 


To dispute the answers, burden of proof is on SUARAM, PKR leaders and the French Court to show that the Perimekar operation is not genuine but a facade for kickback. Alll the talk and claim must prove a money trail from Perimekar to Razak or Najib via whatever vehicle. 


As far as Government side, they have no knowledge of what Perimekar's money management and flow. Perimekar has delivered their work at the specified! quoted price. 

A momento from the Commanding Officer  (and Crew of KD Tun Razak.
Thank you for the honour!
Any accusation on Perimekar have to be proven. Not by endless raising of doubts or suspicion. No Government operate on doubts and suspicions. Because it will never end. There must be some level of surety. 

Whoever spinned it as though MACC succumbed to their pressure [read FMT here], don't be too sure. Some people are not empty tin can making all the noise. They do not have to tell the world they are working. 

If they want MACCC to investigate, why don't they report to MACC? Hopefully they get charged for false report because Perimekar operation was bonafide and the French court will have no case to charge. 

Quite sure of it.  More on SUARAM's deception next.

The good die young. May his work is not lost in vain.

We did not personally know Mustafa but was there to sent him away.
Read of him in Zakhir's Zoo
here and Bigdogdotcom here. 

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